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Walter Howes

Male 1866 - 1915  (48 years)


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  • Name Walter Howes  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12
    Birth Abt 1865  Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location  [13
    Birth Abt 1866  Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location  [5, 7, 8
    Birth Abt 1866  [5
    • age 23 at marriage
    Born 30 Jul 1866  St Michael's Alley, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location  [10
    Walter Howes BC
    Walter Howes BC
    Gender Male 
    Birth Abt Aug 1866  Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location  [11
    Birth Abt 1867  Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Birth Abt 1868  Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location  [14
    Residence 2 Apr 1871  Boarded Entry Yard, Ber Street, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location  [13
    Occupation 3 Apr 1881  [7
    Railway Dray Boy 
    Residence 3 Apr 1881  Houghton's Yard, Ber Street, St Michael at Thorn, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location  [7
    • living with George & Charlotte Moore, who had brought him up
    Occupation 25 Dec 1889 
    Dairyman 
    Residence 25 Dec 1889  St Michael at Thorn, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Occupation 1891 
    Dairy man 
    Residence 1891  Newman's Yard, St John de Sepulchre, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Occupation 1 Oct 1892 
    Milkman 
    Occupation 13 Nov 1892  [15
    Labourer 
    Residence 13 Nov 1892  42 Horn's Lane, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location  [15
    Occupation 16 Feb 1898 
    Hawker 
    Occupation 5 Jul 1899 
    Hawker 
    Occupation 1901 
    Wood chopper 
    Residence 1901  42 Mariners Lane, St Julian, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Occupation 7 Dec 1901  [4
    Wood hawker 
    Occupation 20 Jul 1902  [3
    Hawker 
    Occupation 2 Apr 1911 
    Hawker 
    Residence 2 Apr 1911  Waterfield's lodging house, 5 Quay Side, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location  [14
    Occupation 30 Nov 1912  [12
    Fisherman 
    Service 1915 
    Seaman, Royal Navy 
    Service No. 1915 
    6231A 
    Died 3 Feb 1915  HMS Clan MacNaughton Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Age: 48y 
    • Ship went down in a storm in the Atlantic. Possibly she was top-heavy and possibly she struck a mne
    Buried 3 Feb 1915  At sea Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • Memorialized at Chatham
    Occupation 25 Jan 1924  [12
    Sailor 
    Death Bef Jul 1948  [2
    Name Walter Moore  [13
    Occupation Jul 1948  [2
    Seaman, Royal Navy 
    Notes 
    • Describes himself as Orphan in 1881 census, but as son of George on Marriage Cert

      living apart from wife in 1911

      New Information: March 2016: Birth certificate proves Walter to have been the son of Thomas & Charlotte

      Received with grateful thanks from great-granddaughter, Janet Rands:

      Walter Howes and Ellen Howes Gell

      A Mr and Mrs Moore living in a cottage near to a large prosperous foundry by the name of HOWES where Mr Moore was employed as a foreman opened their front door one morning in1866 to find a basket on the doorstep containing a baby boy. He was well dressed with a label attached to the basket that gave his name as Walter Howes and his date of birth.

      The couple took him in and brought him up. They received an anonymous payment regularly to pay for the child. He was educated privately and turned out to be very bright. The Moores doted on him and spoilt him but as he grew up he became quite a wild person.

      When he was still underage he courted and seduced a simple housemaid by the name of Alice Gell. Alice gave birth to a daughter whom she named Ellen. Walter did marry Alice but not until about a year later making Ellen illegitimate. She was ashamed of this for the rest of her life as in those days she could not take her fathers name even though Walter did insist his name be added to her birth certificate.

      Ellen was a very pretty child and at first her father was very proud of her. He bought her a velvet coat and bonnet and sat her on his milk cart to show her off to his customers.
      Walter had several crazy sorts of jobs, at one time he was a black faced minstrel on a boat called the 'Jenny Lynd' which sailed up and down the local river. The milk cart was another short lived occupation.

      The family grew rapidly,Ellen had 5 brothers that lived and numerous other siblings who died at birth and at only months old.

      The payments made to the Moores were diverted to Walter on leaving education but on his marriage to Alice stopped so this is when his numerous unsuccessful attempts at earning an income started. Walter took to drinking and when he was drunk he became violent. He blamed Ellen for his downfall and came to hate her. Each time Alice was confined Ellen would have to miss school to help. The school was just across the road so the teachers could see what was happening and Walter was sent to prison for a spell because of it. Thereafter he would get drunk more often and arrive home gunning for Ellen, he would chase her with an axe and shout 'where's that Rachael I'll murder her' he called her Rachael as he said she had Jewish looks. The neighbours would alert her mother and she would rush Ellen round to the next door where she would hide in their bed.

      The house they occupied had only two bedrooms so at the age of 14 years old Ellen had to the home to her 5 brothers.

      Ellen or Nellie as she became known had to leave the family home and support herself. She was close to her mother and always kept in touch but had no further contact with her father.
      She met and married David Cutmore from Norwich. David was the son of another David Cutmore who owned a large Bakery. Ellen was 20 years old at the time of her marriage.
      On the marriage certificate she is named as Ellen Gell and father deceased. Walter was still very much alive, her mother did not attend the wedding which took place in Yarmouth as it was kept secret from Walter so mother could not be missing for a day.

      Eventually Alice procured a small house back in Norwich for the newly weds to set up home. In 1910 after two years of marriage their first child was born - a boy who they named David followed 2 years later by Edward then 2 years later by Marjorie.

      On hearing of the birth of Ellen's third child Walter decided he wanted to make peace with his daughter he persuaded Alice to take him to visit Ellen, her husband and family.
      Alice was very nervous about the meeting but it all went off quite well Walter behaved very well and caused David to say to Ellen ' I didn't know your father was a gentleman'
      Who was his father?

      At the beginning of the war in 1914 Walter Howes falsified his age by a few years and enlisted in the navy. He was lost when his ship the Clan Mcnaughton was sunk in the Western approaches in 1915. His name is on a memorial in Chatham Shipyard.

      Ellen and David went on to have a further daughter Joan and another son Stanley.

      Their second child Edward was my - Janet Rands - father. Walter my great grandfather.
    Person ID I24293  ONS
    Last Modified 6 Apr 2021 

    Father Thomas Benjamin Howes,   b. 7 Jan 1828, St Augustine, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 18 Oct 1913, Great Hospital, Bishopgate, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 85 years) 
    Mother Charlotte Smith,   b. Abt 1829, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 9 Mar 1907, 1 Cow Yard, Cow Hill, St Giles, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 78 years) 
    Married 22 Oct 1847  Register Office, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location  [5
    Norwich, Norfolk
    Norwich, Norfolk
    Register Office
    Thomas Benjamin Howes / Charlotte Smith MC
    Thomas Benjamin Howes / Charlotte Smith MC
    Witness 22 Oct 1847  [5
    Henry Howes 
    Witness 22 Oct 1847  [5
    Mary Ann Howes 
    Married Abt Nov 1847  Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location  [16
    Family ID F6434  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Alice Gell,   b. 9 Oct 1868, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 21 Jul 1948, Norfolk & Norwich Hospital, St Stephen's Road, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 79 years) 
    Married Abt Nov 1889  Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location  [6
    Married 25 Dec 1889  St Michael at Thorn, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location  [5
    Walter Howes / Alice Gell MC
    Walter Howes / Alice Gell MC
    Witness 25 Dec 1889  [5
    Charles Bell 
    Witness 25 Dec 1889  [5
    Elizabeth Bell 
    Children 
    +1. Ellen Howes,   b. 29 Dec 1888, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Abt Aug 1970, Kettering RD, Northamptonshire Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 81 years)
    +2. Ernest Walter Howes,   b. 18 Feb 1891, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 9 Sep 1916, Somme, Picardie, France Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 25 years)
    +3. Walter Ernest Howes,   b. 1 Oct 1892, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 28 Apr 1959, 725 Jervis Street, Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 66 years)
    +4. Henry James Howes,   b. Abt May 1894, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Abt Nov 1936, Erpingham RD, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 42 years)
    +5. Herbert Howes,   b. 16 Jan 1898, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 11 Oct 1945, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 47 years)
     6. George Howes,   b. 1 Apr 1899, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 2 Jan 1900, 42 Horn's Lane, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 0 years)
     7. Alice Gertrude Howes,   b. 31 Jul 1900, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 7 Dec 1901, 42 Horn's Lane, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 1 years)
     8. James Frederick Howes,   b. 4 Oct 1901, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 20 Jul 1902, 42 Horn's Lane, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 0 years)
    Last Modified 6 Mar 2016 
    Family ID F9317  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBirth - Abt 1865 - Norwich, Norfolk Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsBirth - Abt 1866 - Norwich, Norfolk Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsBorn - 30 Jul 1866 - St Michael's Alley, Norwich, Norfolk Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsBirth - Abt Aug 1866 - Norwich, Norfolk Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsBirth - Abt 1867 - Norwich, Norfolk Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsBirth - Abt 1868 - Norwich, Norfolk Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 3 Apr 1881 - Houghton's Yard, Ber Street, St Michael at Thorn, Norwich, Norfolk Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarried - Abt Nov 1889 - Norwich, Norfolk Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 25 Dec 1889 - St Michael at Thorn, Norwich, Norfolk Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarried - 25 Dec 1889 - St Michael at Thorn, Norwich, Norfolk Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 1891 - Newman's Yard, St John de Sepulchre, Norwich, Norfolk Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 1901 - 42 Mariners Lane, St Julian, Norwich, Norfolk Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsBuried - 3 Feb 1915 - At sea Link to Google Earth
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  • Sources 
    1. [S6] 1901 Census - England & Wales.

    2. [S461] Death report - spouse.

    3. [S458] Death report - son.

    4. [S601] Death report - mother.

    5. [S50] Marriage cert.

    6. [S475] BMD register (England & Wales) - marriages - multiple sources.

    7. [S4] 1881 Census - England & Wales.

    8. [S5] 1891 Census - England & Wales.

    9. [S611] Commonwealth War Graves Commission website.

    10. [S11] Birth cert.

    11. [S476] BMD register (England & Wales) - births - multiple sources.

    12. [S218] Marriage record - son.

    13. [S542] 1871 Census - England & Wales.

    14. [S156] 1911 Census - England & Wales.

    15. [S62] Parish Register - baptisms.
      indicates that we have seen the original parish register, microfilm/fiche or a scanned image

    16. [S475] BMD register (England & Wales) - marriages - multiple sources.
      available online from various sources